# Day 56 — YouTube 自动生成字幕（AUTO_GENERATED）

覆盖训练段 000–12 分钟。已去滚动字幕重叠。ASR 生成可能含识别错误。

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[Music] [Music] so we have our panel discussion on the topic transcending change essential skills for the AI era we have our moderator Dr J shangar Prasad director of DCM is currently the director of DCM institutions and was the managing director of Kerala state it infrastructure limited he has been an aspiration to many young Innovative minds of the state his expertise incompasses organizational leadership incompasses organizational leadership policy formulation project Consulting and implementation with roles of both government and private sectors combining Technical and managerial proficiency inviting you

sir and the panel Dr Saji goat he was the director of the Indi Institute of information and Technology Co kod and currently he's a vice Chancellor of digital University of Kerala he was credited with the creating vibrant technology startup ecosystem and was recognized as a state startup Champion twice in the government of India he's a consult constant supporter of innovation and valid education and we have Mr Anu pamba he was the CEO of genro research helping merge a ml into medical fields and he is now

the C CEO of Kerala startup Mission continuing to pay the way of Bing startups and we have jibu alas he is a mosula responsible Computing fellow and co-creator of India AI is also a consultant for curriculum design and artificial intelligence and a member of world economic forum and we have anubha Singh Google developer expert he founded the code foundation and the co-founder of kim. he's also the Google developer expert in machine learning language and Google Cloud platform and continues to be constant technological innovator okay unfortunately

he has to leave now so we'll start the panel discussion with the members okay uh thank you for the invite and uh thank you for the uh patient listening because audience are still uh around so we'll keep it very short and simple so we have Jani he's the city Chief Architect of Geo Cinema so he is here so he will be joining the pan No architect architect yeah so all the IPL that we have been live streaming that is he was The Man Behind that yeah

let's welcome him yeah yeah okay I think we'll keep it uh the format will be very simple I think uh the topic has been discussed from morning onwards and we are all talking about what are the skills that are going to be critical in this uh era of AI I got a very very interesting panel you have now I call you an entertainment Specialist or an architect into the entertainment industry is that industry is that correct you can just say that I you can just say

that I know things about programming I'm not an architect by the way uh I am a senior director there I have a bunch of interesting people uh who I work with and you know they help us take a lot of interesting decisions okay uh I I just oversee I'm just the person available to help them execute exactly great okay thank you and uh then we had jibu and part of the uh mosa Foundation I think he works with a lot of uh Skilling and they are

working on a lot of uh what do you call that uh a Frameworks for Skilling and usage of that so he can talk about it we have ano who heads the Kerala startup Mission so he can talk about what the entrepreneurs and young we have been seeing some very young stars on stage so you can talk talk about what the young entrepreneurs are bringing to table and what are the opportunities we also have Dr Saji gobinath who is now deciding on the maybe one of the

major factors for the curriculum academics and how we are building this uh Workforce or even the youngsters for tomorrow I think let me start from you uh what do you think from a from your industry perspective what are the skills that you look forward to or how do you you think the whole Skilling thing is Skilling thing is developing I think to a large extent Skilling in fact getting started with anything right uh the most important ingredient becomes curiosity uh we hear a lot of people

say Cur be curious and you have to be innately curious right uh trust me curiosity is what leads you to ask the questions that say hey why is this thing even working a lot of people understand how to use chat GPT right almost everybody does uh very few people go in asking why does this even work the people who ask these questions end up being the people who discover how this gets done and then can potentially even you know it's just like a funnel uh they

could potentially change the way these things then work and hopefully help us evolve uh uh further so curiosity is what I innately look for uh whenever I interview even for my current organization or in the past okay that's a curiosity of course is a base for everything but then uh even when you talk about Ai and other skills there are various levels to it so jibu if I come to you and understand that you working on a framework so if I as a Humanities person as

using AI tools then I use it as a at a very lower level somebody at a programming level whom we have seen might use it at a development a particular model for something or even uh you know tying up a few already available codes to create something new somebody might be redefining the entire model itself so there are various levels of it and what are the various career paths available or what are the you know real pathways on this actually can you just elaborate on that

uh yeah um so before I start I just want to correct something uh when I introduced they told me I'm the member of world economic Forum it's not like that the member of the global future Council on AI under the world economic Forum so yeah coming to this uh so I've been working on this project by the German Innovation corporation which is part of uh Federal German government uh we are looking at creating micr credential curriculum on AI for non-technical students and this is for the

global South so the three countries that comes under my preview is India Bangladesh and Vietnam we are working with one Bol University in Germany and few other universities in India so the idea here is how does a curriculum for AI curriculum for an economics student ba economics student looks like or an AI curriculum for a ba English literature student looks like the 90 or 99% of courses out there introductory courses on AI everything is focused on uh trying to teach you to code my belief is

that you don't need to learn to code to use AI right we all use chat GPT we use perplexity we use mid Journey we use so many tools regularly it's it's like when the computers came we didn't learn to build applications on Windows we just used word and PowerPoint so what we are trying to do is we were trying to Envision what will happen in the next five 10 years to a student of Agriculture Sciences what if that student take a micr credential course on AI

for agriculture science student what are the areas he should focus on so the areas he should leverage will be something like pattern recognition which can be used for pest detection or more working with iot he doesn't lead llm mostly for an economist it will be forecasting you know modeling and things like that so that's we are working on that we just presented the curriculum to U uh to a panel of U Banaras Hindu University hansraj College Jam Mia islami and few other institutions so we are

now taking their feedback and we are working with the German partner to build this and then we will be mosula will be also chipping in and working on a career pathway on some of these specific uh uh subject-wise programs I think when you when you talk about uh not learning the to the code but just uh the application part of it learning how to use it then the ethical considerations of how well you use it for what you use it and how much credit you gain

for it those becomes a question which I'll follow upon the next time but I know I think to have a an Enterprise which is earning commercial value or uh becoming a you know disruptor in any industry I think it'll have to go beyond the application part of it I think you can't tie up everything together and make a maybe you can make a mockup but then getting it really into a commercial experience for the users and getting it to be valued at a very high rate

from an entrepreneurship or a startup point of view how deep or what are the skills that you really look forward to from your entrepreneurs on your entrepreneurs on this yeah I think I frankly I don't know what the skills are but I can tell you a few experiences that I've had in the past um so we started this journey and I'm not talking from a startup Mission perspective but from a startup perspective building models uh for generating text and paraphrasing and summarization all that stuff from

2017 right so what happened in 2021 was that all the work that we have done that we amateures have done done in developing the models that that he talked about that understanding the Transformers and how does it work and what is neural networks and you know attention models and all that stuff all that hard work just went down the drain because an open AI or you know uh a llama or some of those bigger models had a lot of resources and lot of compute by which

they were able to make large language models so now we are at a stage where we are becoming users of that model uh much like we we are users of Netflix we are users of Amazon we are users of Google we are now users of uh llms that are being developed so what can you really do you can now transform the career in which you are in if I a teacher I can transform teaching using AI if I'm a programmer I can transform programming using AI

if I'm a writer I can transform writing using AI I think so the large amount of jobs or skills are going to be around using the AI models that is already developed by a large large corporate which will open up a lot of new job openings the other side of the

# Day 56 — 火山引擎 录音文件识别（volc.seedasr.auc）

豆包大模型 ASR，异步接口。可能含识别错误，仅供听力对照。

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So we have our panel discussion on the topic Transcending Change, essential skills for the AI Era.

We have our moderator, Dr Jay Shingara Prasad, Director of dcmat, is currently the director of dcmat Institutions and was the Managing Director of Kerala State it Infrastructure Limited.

He has been an inspiration to many young, innovative minds of the state.

His expertise encompasses organizational leadership, policy formulation, project consulting and implementation with roles of both government and private sectors combining technical and managerial proficiency.

Inviting you, sir, and the panel, Doctor Sajeev Gobindan.

He was the director of the Indian Institute of information and Technology, Cochin, and currently he is the Vice Chancellor of Digital University of Kerala.

He was credited with the creating vibrant technology startup ecosystem and was recognized as a state startup champion twice.

In the government of India, he's a constant supporter of innovation and valid education.

And we have Mr Anu Pambika.

He was the CEO of Genpro Research, helping merge AI and ML into medical fields and he is now the CEO of Kayla Startup Mission, continuing to pay the way of budding startups.

And we have Jibu Elias.

He is a Mozilla Responsible Computing Fellow and co creator of India AI.

He is also a consultant for curriculum design in Artificial Intelligence and a member of World Economic Forum.

And we have Anubhav Singh, Google developer expert.

He founded the Code Foundation and the co founder of Kolchim Dot AI.

He is also the Google developer expert in machine learning, language and Google Cloud Platform and continues to be constant technological innovator.

Okay, unfortunately he has to leave now so we'll start the panel discussion with the members.

Okay.

Uh uh, thank you for the invite and uh thank you for the uh patient listening because audience are still uh around so we'll keep it very short and simple.

Great.

So, uh we have JoJo Sunny.

He's the city, uh, chief architect of, uh, Geo Cinema.

So he's here.

So he will be joining the panel.

Yeah, architect.

Yeah.

So although I feel that we have been live streaming, that is he was the man behind that.

Yeah, let's welcome him.

Yeah.

Okay.

I think we'll keep it.

The format will be very simple.

I think the topic has been discussed from morning onwards and we're all talking about what are the skills that are going to be critical in this era of AI.

I've got a very, very interesting panel you have.

Now, I call you an entertainment specialist or an architect into the entertainment industry.

Is that correct?

You can just say that I know things about programming.

I'm not an architect, by the way.

I am a senior director there.

I have a bunch of interesting people, uh, who I work with.

And, you know, they help us take a lot of interesting decisions.

Okay?

Uh, I, I just oversee.

I'm just the person available to help them execute.

Exactly right.

Okay, thank you.

And, uh, then we had Jibu and, uh, part of the, uh, Mozila Foundation.

I think he works with a lot of, uh, uh, skilling and, uh, they are working on a lot of, uh, what do you call that, uh, a frameworks for skilling and, uh, usage of that so he can talk about it.

We have a noob who heads the, uh, Kala Startup Mission so he can talk about what the entrepreneurs and young.

We have been seeing some very young stars on stage.

So he can talk about what the young entrepreneurs are bringing to table and what are the opportunities.

We also have Dr Sachin Gopinath who is now deciding on the maybe one of the major factors for the curriculum, academics and how we are building this workforce or even the youngsters for tomorrow, I think.

Let me start from you.

What do you think from a from your industry perspective, what are the skills that you look forward to?

Or how do you think the whole skilling thing is developing?

I think to a large extent, skilling, in fact, getting started with anything.

Right.

The most important ingredient becomes curiosity.

We hear a lot of people say be curious.

And you have to be innately curious, right?

Trust me, curiosity is what leads you to ask the questions that say, hey, why is this thing even working?

A lot of people understand how to use ChatGPT, right?

Almost everybody does.

Very few people go in asking, why does this even work?

The people who ask these questions end up being the people who discover how this gets done and then can potentially even, you know, it's just like a funnel, they could potentially change the way these things then work and hopefully help us evolve further.

So curiosity is what I innately look for, uh, whenever I interview, even for my current organization or in the past.

Okay.

But, uh, uh, curiosity of course is a base for everything but then, uh, even when you talk about AI and other skills there are various levels to it.

So uh Jibu if I come to you and I understand that you are working on a framework.

So if I as a humanities person is using AI tools, then I use it as a, at a very lower level, somebody at a programming level whom we have seen might use it at a development, a particular model for something.

Or even, you know, tying up a few already available codes to create something new.

Somebody might be redefining the entire model itself.

So there are various levels of it.

And what are the various career paths available or what are the, you know, real pathways on this, actually?

Can you just elaborate on that?

Uh, yeah.

Um, so before I start, I just want to correct something.

Uh, when I introduced, they told me I'm the member of World Economic Forum.

It's not like that.

The member of the Global Future Council on AI under the World Economic Forum.

So, yeah, coming to this, uh, so I've been working on this project by the German Innovation Corporation, which is part of a federal German government.

We are looking at creating micro credential curriculum on AI for non technical students and this is for the global south.

So the three countries that comes under my preview is India, Bangladesh and Vietnam.

We are working with one bold university in Germany and a few other universities in India.

So the idea here is how does a curriculum for AI curriculum for an economic student, BA economic student looks like or an AI curriculum for a BA English literature student looks like the 90 or 99% of courses out there, introductory courses on AI.

Everything is focused on trying to teach you to code.

My belief is that you don't need to learn to code to use AI, right?

We all use ChatGPT, we use perplexity, we use midjourney.

We use so many tools regularly.

It's, it's like when the computers came, we didn't learn to build applications on Windows.

We just used word and Powerpoint.

So what we are trying to do is we were trying to envision what will happen in the next 5, 10 years to a student of agriculture sciences?

What if that student take a micro credential course on AI for agriculture science student, what are the areas he should focus on?

So the areas he should leverage will be something like pattern recognition, which can be used for pest detection or more working with IoT.

He doesn't need LLM.

Mostly for an economist, it will be forecasting, you know, modeling and things like that.

So that's we are working on that.

We just presented the curriculum to IKN, to a panel of IKN Banaras, Hindu University, Hansraj College, Jamia, Millia Islamia and few other institutions.

So we are now taking their feedback and we are working with the German partner to build this.

And then we will be, Mozila will be also chipping in and working on a career pathway on some of these specific, uh, uh, subject wise programs.

I think when you when you talk about uh, not learning the to the code but just uh, the application part of it, learning how to use it, then the ethical considerations of how well you use it.

For what you use it and how much credit do you gain for it.

Those becomes a question which I'll follow up on the next time.

But I know I think to have a an enterprise which is earning commercial value or becoming a, you know, disruptor in any industry, I think it'll have to go beyond the application part of it.

I think you can't tie up everything together and make a maybe you can make a mock up, but then getting it really into a commercial experience for the users and getting it to be valued at a very high rate from a entrepreneurship or a startup point of view.

How deep or what are the skills that you really look forward to from your entrepreneurs on this?

Yeah, I think I frankly, I don't know what the skills are, but I can tell you a few experiences that I've had in the past.

Um, so we started this journey and I'm not talking from a startup mission perspective, but from a startup perspective, building models for generating text and paraphrasing and summarization, all that stuff from 2,017, right?

So what happened in 2021 was that all the work that we have done, that we amateurs have done in developing the models that that he talked about that understanding the Transformers and how does it work and what is neural networks and, you know, attention models and all that stuff. All that hard work just went down.

The drain because an open AI or, you know, a llama or some of those bigger models had a lot of resources and a lot of compute by which they were able to make large language models.

So now we are at a stage where we are becoming users of that model much like we we are users of Netflix, we are users of Amazon, we are users of Google.

We are now users of, uh, LLMs that are being developed.

So what can you really do?

You can now transform the career in which you are in.

If I'm a teacher, I can transform teaching using AI.

If I'm a programmer, I can transform programming using AI.

If I'm a writer, I can transform writing using AI, I think.

So the large amount of jobs or skills are going to be around using the AI models that is already developed by a large corporate, which will open up a lot of new job openings. The other.